conditional definitions
"We have become convinced that the presence of particular thoughts, feelings, or actions is the only way we can really know if someone is Enlightened. The checklist of Enlightened attributes is both lengthy and complex. Is this really love, we ask, in the presence of a supposedly Enlightened being? Or bliss? Do they still have thoughts, we want to know, since we have heard that a mind empty of thoughts is surely a sign of spiritual advancement? And what is this? Is fear present? Well, the presence of fear proves they couldn't possibly having a true spiritual experience. In fact, however, the presence of fear means only that fear is present, and nothing more."
Suzanne Segal
Suzanne Segal